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Old 01-05-2018 | 12:11 PM
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AZPilotMike
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Originally Posted by BarrySeal
where did original poster go ?

he signed up on 01-02-18, created and posted only to this thread, and disappeared.

uncredible

back to regular programming.

Reminder to the f ignorant and stupid: Yes, Envoy is a regional.

Reminder #2- Regional QOL and pay is not the same as mainline/major QOL.

Common APC comments about regionals in general from whiners and crybabies and "me generation"
  1. My regional sucks
  2. They overwork me
  3. Pay sucks
  4. Dispatch/Ops hates Pilots
  5. Commuting sucks
  6. the check airman all suck
  7. management sucks
  8. my regional sucks, how about your regional
  9. any rumor to instant Captain upgrades. I can't wait 1 year
  10. pay sucks
  11. new ATP rule sucks
  12. the CEO's is over focused on making money
  13. regionals suck
  14. am I qualified for Delta
  15. wow I fly too much, this is BS
  16. they expect us to fly
  17. we are treated like employees of some big mammoth company who doesn't care how we feel
  18. this place sucks
  19. if you can pull it off, skip this stage and go direct Delta, Fedex
  20. regional to corporate ? thoughts ?
  21. why do I need a degree, I am cutting my teeth now, that is BS and sucks
  22. I don't suck
  23. military dudes suck
  24. everybody sucks
  25. (hired at XYZ major then....) our pay is lower than ABC Major pay, we suck.

    cycle continues until death


Todays regional is jet cockpit Day-1. Years ago, regional new hires flew Jetstreams, Embraer EMB 110 Bandeirantes, Metroliners, or Beech 1900's. Steam gauge cockpits and typically never got above FL 180. Forget long domestic or international trips as a regional pilot. A "long trip" was DFW-MAF in the Saab or DFW-LRD in the ATR.

today, a new regional hire is logging "jet time" (SIC, yes...) from Day-1.

but, Envoy sucks
Well sure, and 100 years ago people got sick and died from simple injuries, doesn't mean we dont want to continually improve upon modern medicine.

Just because things are better now doesn't equate to people wanting improvement being wrong or asking to much. By your logic, things should never change so long as they are better then the worst it had been.

However, all that said, I agree, we are in a pretty great spot as regionals go. Envoy isn't the best in terms of pay, but they are not the worst either. Overall I feel they are a good company in my limited experience. Do I think for a minute they are perfect, hell no.
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