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Old 01-07-2018, 07:53 PM
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There are reasons to come here, and reasons not to. These are just my opinions:

Originally Posted by HanSoolu View Post
Reasons Why You Shouldn’t Come to Envoy:

1) Flow is Nonexistent. Metered. And Completely Unacceptable

Truth: 2 out of 5. It exists, and is metered. Acceptability is subjective.
Importance: 5

2) You will commute to New York

Truth: 4
Importance: 2. You'll be able to bid out soon enough. Does anyone expect an airline career with zero commuting?

2a) If you go to New York, You will be run by someone with little authority to be a Chief Pilot

Truth: 5
Importance: 2

3) Flight Benefits Are Worth Very Little

Truth: 1
Importance: doesn't matter if it is not true.

4) Pay (Especially our Absurd Bonus Structure)

Truth: 3. This would be lower but for Endeavor.
Importance: 5

5) Expect To Be Underpaid

Truth: 5. The company should be embarrassed. Pay Comp is either woefully understaffed or woefully undertrained, probably both, and has been for years. I've been underpaid many times.
Importance: 5


6) Expect a Merger with Piedmont in the Near Future


Truth: ???
Importance: ???

7) Constant Junior Manning

Truth: 2.5. Constant isn't true...
Importance: 5 ...but when it happens to you it sucks.

8) The Company Will Violate the Contract

Truth: 5.
Importance: 5.

9) Fatigue Calls Will Count Against You

Truth: 4. This happens occasionally, and is BS.
Importance: 3. Because every airline seems kind of slimy about this.

10) Forced Upgrades

Truth: 5
Importance: 3 or 4. Everyone should know about this by now. Upgrading can also be good.

11) Training Is Subpar at Best

Truth: 3 or 4, I think. Our training was always fantastic. The huge turnover in the training department seems to have had an effect.

12) Deadhead Pay is 75%

Truth: 5
Importance: 1

13) CRJ is Hell

Truth: 5
Importance: varies

14) Fired for Being Sick

Truth: Hard to say. Was he fired for being a vocal union rep? Possibly.
Importance: 5

15) Long Sits

Truth: 5
Importance: 1

16) AA gives the Table Scraps of Flying

Truth: 5
Importance: 1

17) Benefits Cost More for Pilots than Any Other Workforce

Truth: I have no idea.
Importance: 4

18) Midday Flying is Nonexistent

Truth: 3. Hyperbole.
Importance: 1

Specifics To Reserve:
19) Airport Standby (or Ready Reserve)

Truth: 5
Importance: 4

20) No Long Call

Truth: 3. Technically if you don't receive or confirm a reserve assignment, you are long call. Doesn't happen often, but happens.
Importance: 4

21) Escalating RAP to Standby

Truth: 5
Importance: 4
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