"Friendship"......just to be honest here. Can't say for the rest, but I am not looking for that from ABX. I ride your JS, you ride ours, professionalism on both sides, that's really all I need.

I assume by "looking to the ABX group for friendship" you mean, strike support. I can understand your position. "What, you want to enforce your scope and potentially take my job, AND you want me to support a strike on your behalf? What are you, out of your mind?" I get it. It seems rediculous.

I also understand that the reason to some, it seems reasonable is because as unions, a strike is a cause that seems to affect the two adversaries only, (i.e. Astar V ALPA DHL017 or ABXA V 1224), whereas, a scope grievance, by definition, is going to potentially/probably have a negative affect on a third party, the group of employees that the scope seeks to exclude in the first place.

Understand this though. I'm not cloaking a very simple matter with BS. If anything what's been cloaked in BS is whether or not..A. AStar CBA falls under RLA or NLRA rules, and B. If covered under RLA rules, (which allow for scope clauses), is DHL obligated to honor the contract they signed, and go to arbitration for potentially violating scope in our CBA when they knowingly contracted to fly DHL freight on ABXA.

Yall really can only take one of two positions....A. Astar doesn't really have a claim to the freight because their CBA is invalid and falls under the NLRA, not RLA rules OR B. We do have a case but we shouldn't seek remedy, because it might negatively impact the pilots at ABXA. A. is ABXA management's position, B. Seems to be ABXA pilot's position, which is oh so hipocritical given the fact that if you thought your scope was breached, I assume you'd collectively file a grievance.

Brewster: Our claim is that DHL Express, signed our CBA agreeing that all DHL freight would be flown by pilots on the DHL Airways(AStar Air Cargo) seniority list, and that when they contracted with ABXA to fly DHL frieght, this was a violation of our scope. It was supposed to go to expidited arbitration, but DHL took ALPA to court, ABXA management enjoined the lawsuit and it's slowly making it's way back around to the end. ABXA cares, because they recognize the potential harm to their company and to the pilot group. What if any damages may have been awarded if we had gotten to go/get to go, to arbitration are unknown, but most think, in any event, ABXA would not have been shut down. But, the prospect is understandably contentious.

Still no takers on my questions huh? hmm