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Old 01-12-2018 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Read the rest rules. Show us anywhere where it says the required 10/8 doesn’t apply on day 1.

If you’re commuting over 2 hours, by definition you didn’t get the 8 in the 10. Then read the rest rules again about required notification to the certificate holder when you didn’t get the 10/8.
"Rest opportunity" is what the company must provide to you.

Nothing in the regs specifies when or how you make use of it. When on an overnight you are not on "lockdown" in your hotel room for eight hours prior to show. Many of us were very concerned when 117 was being developed that the rules might be applied to commuting but that did not happen. The airlines were behind that, they didn't want to pay junior pilots enough to live near JFK, IAD, SFO, LAX, etc.

Also, practically speaking, a pilot coming off of days off can be sufficiently well rested to do a moderately long commute and still work a long day. But the pilot has control over that.
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