I currently fly for Endeavor and have more than enough time to qualify for the bonus (will be upgrading here in the coming months). Would be nice to get $45,000 put a down payment on a house and pay off my high interest car loan, not to mention I have to buy my gf a car. However, after that money is gone, Envoy CAs make peanuts compared to what an Endeavor CA makes now. If the flow takes 10 years I'm not going to spend 10 years being poor. I read this forum and comment at times to get information and keep an eye on developments with you guys, but it really seems like Envoy is still able to attract plenty of people who don't care so much about getting paid, which is the problem with pilots in general. And even at EDV, the retention bonuses were a dumb way to get paid, your bi-weekly paycheck as an FO before this month was still at a rate of $27,000 a year, which is not enough to live on, and you have to wait four months for each bonus. People need to wake up and demand actual pay none of these bonus gimmicks. But I guess pilots love airline management so much we'll keep undercutting eachother and setting pay standards low so we can provide billionaires with cheap labor and better bottom lines.