I never voted down a union, and I don't clean planes. I can only assume you are refering to our group as a whole. Those days are long gone for most of us. All I can say is I didn't come over here to insult you, or your group. We dont have scope, you are correct. Scope is everything, when a company can outsource. How much of your flying could spirit cover at lower rates than yours?

I would vote no if this were presented to me. I would strike, (and will probably have to) especially in this environment. If you want to take substandard pay, while your company is raking in profits and having staffing issues that is up to you. Just realize that you effect the entire industry by accepting it.