You are absolutely right. What do you think we can get by going back and how long? I think a year for sure. Many will want to replace the NC so we have to appoint and train new members. We will then resurveyed the group on why the no vote and what to focus on going back. Then we have to convince the NMB to bring us back for new dates because the company won’t care, then we will sit on ice most likely for a while before we get those dates, then us and the company talk past each other til we get a splash more money, then another voting period.

Cathy McCann used to negotiate labor agreements and concessionary ones at that at AA. She’s never going to release us and is already astonished at the company’s low offer here. We have to get $30/hr more to make it worth waiting a year and hope we don’t medical out or get raped on scope. Let’s not forget that we would then also push out the next amendable date another year because unlike Delta Spirit is absolutely dug in on 5 year terms.

I also personally think this AIP plugs their recruiting hole with chewing gum. I’m not voting with anything other than what’s presented but I think they are setting themselves up for a mid cycle increase if they want to grow again and keep recruiting. If that’s true we’d be wise to take the massive increases (not just pay) that we are getting in this offer instead of pushing it out. That probably won’t happen but it’s certainly plausible. AA got some profit sharing and calendar day mid cycle