Originally Posted by
Macjet
No offense, but weren't your coworkers all paying for their own type ratings a few years ago? WN might be the land of milk and honey and kumbaya today but it wasn't that long ago that it was a stepping stone to a 'real airline' (whatever that is) that was emptying trailer parks with every departure. Frontier guys pay for their own hotel rooms in training and how many Delta guys were PFT back at ASA years ago? It's easy to look down and forget everything you were to get where you are today.
I know someone chimed in about United in four years and my honest opinion is that UAL will furlough 3,000+ within five years and will be negotiating back those raises. I won't have a problem making $240/hour as a 4th year captain versus a $150/hour 4th year FO with major gains in LTD and scope that will guarantee that I'll be around to fight the next fight. It's been a long fight and our bird in hand versus two in the bush nets a 4th year captain nearly a $100k pay raise. Is it worth risking another year with no LTD or scope for another $10-20k?
That's something each NK pilot will have to decide. It's not a home run but it puts us within grenade range of most everyone else and with the hard fought, and won, protections and retirement in place we'll be in a better position on the next go around.
So your prediction is United has the biggest furlough in its history, 800 more pilots than when they furloughed all of their flight engineers, 25% of their pilots, and everyone else including Spirit will be fine?
Your prediction is that United will be negotiating back their rates and Spirit will still be sitting at $240/hr?
Your prediction is after the fire and brimstone you will still be a CA at Spirit making 240K/hr and not an FO?
It appears you are trying to justify a sub par contract by saying soon we will be even when everything falls apart. When everything falls apart it will fall apart at Spirit as well.
How is it that Spirit pilots don’t have loss of medical insurance? If you are so scared of losing your medical go to Harvey Watt or AOPA and buy a policy, they aren’t that expensive. I had one at the regionals. Company offered LTD is not free you will be paying for it, although probably slightly cheaper. I get why you want it and agree it is extremely important to have but to vote out of fear of losing your medical when you can go out and protect yourself and your family today is extremely short sighted.