Originally Posted by SilentLurker

Those issues were industry wide back then, it was as not just Eagle suffering. Bad pay, long reserve, concessions, Long upgrades. Not the same situation today.

Forgive people for wanting more old timers.

*Many of us avoided the industry until pay rates/bonuses came up* including RTP/military guys. Obviously it’s been a pilot pay shortage. “Enjoy” could be making the same mistakes that lead to the departure of many Line pilots to other carriers, exasperating the shortage, vs taking the lead in changing the culture, contract, pay rates, even bonuses which Endeavor, Republic, Air Wisconsin, and Commutair had done since 2013 / 1500hr rule / FAR117. I do believe Enjoy will do what’s right eventually. Takes time and patience for things to Go up to Mainline and come back down. Especially when there are 2 other WO involved and it’s a Me Too atmosphere. Mainline can not compete with Delta and it’s single WO pilot Group, with our 3 WO much larger Me Too groups all wanting the same pay rate, and better TA/contract like Endeavor now has. Something has to give somewhere in the cost structure of the WO’s before we can get a pay rate like Endeavor.