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Old 01-19-2018 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Those issues were industry wide back then, it was as not just Eagle suffering. Bad pay, long reserve, concessions, Long upgrades. Not the same situation today.

Forgive people for wanting more old timers.

*Many of us avoided the industry until pay rates/bonuses came up* including RTP/military guys. Obviously it’s been a pilot pay shortage. “Enjoy” could be making the same mistakes that lead to the departure of many Line pilots to other carriers, exasperating the shortage, vs taking the lead in changing the culture, contract, pay rates, even bonuses which Endeavor, Republic, Air Wisconsin, and Commutair had done since 2013 / 1500hr rule / FAR117. I do believe Enjoy will do what’s right eventually. Takes time and patience for things to Go up to Mainline and come back down. Especially when there are 2 other WO involved and it’s a Me Too atmosphere. Mainline can not compete with Delta and it’s single WO pilot Group, with our 3 WO much larger Me Too groups all wanting the same pay rate, and better TA/contract like Endeavor now has. Something has to give somewhere in the cost structure of the WO’s before we can get a pay rate like Endeavor.
My only goal here is to pass on accurate information without over exaggerating or sugar coating anything. The idea that morale is lower now than 2013/15 is laughable. People didn't think they were going to have jobs soon. The company told us we would close you down if we didn't take pay cuts. More than a 1000 pilots left Eagle. People complain about reserve for a few months. Lol.

I'm all for making this place better going forward. However, when there is this much movement and growth Reserve isn't on my top priority to fix because people won't be on it very long. I would be very interested in seeing an LOA addressing Long Term Displaced CAs that are on reserve so they don't quit after a few months. Reserve isn't that bad if you live in base. Reserve for commuters is extremely painful and I'd like to see that issue corrected. Going forward we need to look at Pay, Schedules, MIN day pay, and current grievances.
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