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Old 01-19-2018 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Space Ranger
Endeavor guy here..been lurkin on this thread for a bit to get an idea of why morale would be low at a place with a flow. Also considering Endeavor and Envoy are arguably the top two regionals, albeit for obviously different reasons. First let me say that I hope our TA brings continued momentum to the pilot groups of all regionals who have busted their asses through some seriously tough times and are due what they're worth. That being said, as an outsider, the "flow" just seems to be smoke and mirrors that management plays with the pilot group to justify treating their employees like crap. From the guys I know that work there, QOL, work rules, schedules, and pay are far below what they should be, but its justified because of the "flow".

Do y'all have something written into your contract stating that the flow can't be discontinued, metered, or reversed, due to "company need"or some other lawyer speak line of BS? Who's to say the flow doesn't go away at the next economic downturn? If thats the case, the flow seems practically worthless. Ok, maybe not worthless, but close enough. What are the current flow numbers for a new hire? 10 years or something? Take a beating for 10 years but its okay because there is a flow?

It would seem as an outsider that the flow is only keeping the koolaid drinking portion of the pilot group happy, where as the guys that can do basic math could see that 2+2 doesn't really add up?

Not trolling here, genuinely curious.
Also an Endeavor guy here. Seems like night and day QOL and morale difference between Envoy and Endeavor, which is amazing considering half the Endeavor pilots commute to NYC. Envoy pilots are not worth a penny less than an Endeavor pilot and flow should not weigh down any compensation at all. After all isn’t flow also a way to keep compensation down at the wholly owneds by not encouraging any lifers?
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