Originally Posted by
MCDUie
I’m not talking about our current pay rates, I’m talking about the original proposal. A large number of F9 pilots have stated on this forum that they expect a better deal than the Spirit AIP. The original proposal from our MEC (pay scale anyway) is already less than Spirits AIP. In our last mediated session ALPA agreed to reduce the overall cost by 80 million. So yes the words “back track” come into play or if you prefer “reverse course” to negotiate higher rates not lower in future sessions. This is my second airline and 3rd contract, I’m familiar with the process. I’ve never seen an MEC propose $245 and walk out with $260.
So to clarify, my concern is that we are either going to receive a TA well below our expectations, or that the company is going to call ALPA’s bluff on their last proposal and ALPA will have to back track and ask for more. The NMB could view that as being unreasonable. I hope I’m wrong.
That’s my point when I say you need to educate yourself. The proposal was just that. A PROPOSAL. The only thing that’s set in stone are our current rates. Proposed rates mean jack. I don’t think that the NC changing their course now does any good, and the large number of pilots you mention that vent on this forum, do not represent a sanctioned and scientific polling platform that speaks for the entire Frontier pilot group. Rather, the NC use Spirit as a justification that what they asked for was more than appropriate. And, you’re too focused on the rate. If we get something in the neighborhood of what Spirit settles on, with NO PBS, do you not recognize the outcome of that and how it translates to a better annual income taking all factors into account?? All I’m saying is that the wise individual looks beyond just the rate as a metric for the deciding how good the deal is. I don’t think anyone rational believes that we’re going to come out the other side of this w/$260/hr on the date of ratification.