Originally Posted by
motorboatin
That’s my point when I say you need to educate yourself. The proposal was just that. A PROPOSAL. The only thing that’s set in stone are our current rates. Proposed rates mean jack. I don’t think that the NC changing their course now does any good, and the large number of pilots you mention that vent on this forum, do not represent a sanctioned and scientific polling platform that speaks for the entire Frontier pilot group. Rather, the NC use Spirit as a justification that what they asked for was more than appropriate. And, you’re too focused on the rate. If we get something in the neighborhood of what Spirit settles on, with NO PBS, do you not recognize the outcome of that and how it translates to a better annual income taking all factors into account?? All I’m saying is that the wise individual looks beyond just the rate as a metric for the deciding how good the deal is. I don’t think anyone rational believes that we’re going to come out the other side of this w/$260/hr on the date of ratification.
I’m not focused only on the hourly rate. You’re trying to put words in my mouth to justify your trolling. I was just using the proposed rates as a measuring stick since that’s all we have to go off of at the moment. No one has seen what’s in the Spirit AIP. I’m well aware of QOL items negotiated through work rules and soft time. I have 11 years in the industry and have been through the process probably more times than you. $260 is just an arbitrary number I used to attempt to explain that we’re negotiating in the wrong direction if we want something comprable or better than the Spirit AIP.
Voicing concerns about where we are in the negotiating process is the point of this thread, hence the title. Troll much? I admit I’m not an expert at the process and if you were you would be on the NC instead of trolling an APC thread. But by all means educate us.