Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

We also still have bases that are way out of whack. We have 2 new hire classes worth of pilots sitting as FO in DCA on the 777, and thats before the loss of the GUM - NRT 7 day trip. We have 1 class of new hires sitting as FO in SFO on the 787. According to the last snap shot it looks like with the reduction of RSVs the 777 has 113 extra FOs, you take out the 777 DCA overstaffing and you get 79 thats another 2 new hire classes.

They also have an entire vacancy bid worth of WB CA bids sitting as CA in SFO on the 787. and that translates into upward movement stagnation and less new hires.

We aren't stagnant because of no growth or lack of opportunities we are stagnant because of the failures of man power planning with the Smizek regime, fences, 747 parking and the constant shifting of airframes in and out and back in to bases. The lack of backfills is what has killed the new hire numbers.