Originally Posted by
inevitableneb
The thing about PBS is there are hundreds of variations of the product. It's like saying 'Cars are bad!'. There are some versions of PBS which would be a significant improvement for Envoy pilots. For instance allegent has a good PBS that includes a SAP. Nav blue is another popular one. Realize that the arilines that have the best QOL in the entire industry have PBS. DAL, UAL, AA, Jet Blue.
Assuming we would end up with one of the good versions of PBS agreements is unrealistic. Also comparing mainline QoL to ours is a joke, right? You really think the reason mainline DAL, UAL, and AA all have better QoL than envoy is because of their PBS??? Come on.
Yes there are hundreds of versions, but we already have an idea of what it would be like for us......
http://eagle.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx...%3d&tabid=6677 Pilots had no control over the pairings. If you don't think that old agreement would be a starting point I think maybe you don't realize who we are dealing with here. They do not negotiate in good faith. And this is zero sum: anything about our scheduling that is saving the company money is costing us.
DTS and transition conflict pay would be lost with PBS. Currently anyone with 3 weeks vacation can turn it into 6 or 7 weeks off. And anyone with a transition conflict can get paid twice for a day or two of work. Giving these up are concessions.