Originally Posted by
50SeatsofGrey
By your logic, if you have an 1600 report time for one flight segment, and you wake up at 0900, do some chores around the house, go out to lunch with friends, then drive to the airport, you are violating 117, even if your commute is less than 2 hours. What you are saying is insane and untrue.
No, in your example, you had the opportunity to sleep for 8 uninterrupted hours in the 10 preceding the FDP. You decided not to use it. Nothing wrong there as long as you can sign under 117.5 that you're fit for duty.
If somebody is commuting more than 2 hours, then they have not had 8 uninterrupted hours of sleep opportunity in the 10 hours preceding the FDP.
Example, if you went off duty on a 10 hour overnight, and the van broke down on the way to the hotel, and due to delays you were not going to get 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep opportunity you would notify the carrier and have the report time adjusted.
Show me anywhere in the exact same rest rule that says you don't need the exact same 8 hour sleep opportunity in the 10 hours preceding the duty period on day one.
The unions need to fix this. Don't ask, don't tell puts all the liability on us.