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Originally Posted by
svergin
Just an FYI, nobody at UAL/CAL moved more than 5% in relative seniority, even with United having a big advantage or WB planes (777 and 747). That's why our CAL 06 hires are paired with some UAL 98 hires, etc. The bottom 1/3 of the CAL list was hired after virtually the entire UAL list.
I know, I know... UAL and CAL were similar companies, with equal footing. That’s why they were merged that way... VX and AS are not... The arbiter even made this distinction. Ask your merger committee. We didn’t get a deal because your merger committee could never sign off on the logical outcome off this SLI...( although the reality finally seemed to be sinking in) Pure and simple, it has to be awarded in arbitration.
Believe what you want... I am a liar... I am an idiot. We are starting at “zero in arbitration ”, whatever that means. All the VX guys on top, AS stapled to the bottom. Relative seniority, whatever fantasy works best for you. You have 6 months to enjoy your alternative reality, live there as long as you can, I guess
I thought Alaska and Virgin America pilots were in mediation, not arbitration. Seeing that you can't tell the difference between the two, and somehow seemed to have gained inside information which should have never happened, as well as not realize that when UAL and CAL merged, the arbitrator found that CAL needed to merge to survive:
More importantly, from 1Q2009 to 3Q2010, it [CAL] lost $1.468 billion while its competitors, including United, were making money.
After considering but ultimately rejecting earlier merger possibilities, Continental realized that long-term survival required that it join with another airline. That business plan brought it to the merger that is the subject of this case.
Also pointed out in the conclusion, you seem to not realize that Virgin America wasn't in need of merging. They were growing, as was Alaska, and Alaska outbid JetBlue to make sure to be the owner and win the west. VX was never a dying or weaker airline, with 10 airframes on order with 60 options for 2020. This was in the UAL/CAL decision as well:
After trying various strategies through the decade, each independently realized that its long-term profitability, if not its very survival, required merging with a partner whose strengths balanced its weaknesses.
http://ual.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx?f...t=aW2PEPbXqsk=
P.S. If you don't wanna seem like a sad guy, being berated by other pilots as you seem to think to have superior knowledge to everyone on this board, maybe just stick to lurking if you can't back up your claims.