Originally Posted by
DrJekyll MrHyde
Why don’t you time capsule this quote and have it emailed to you in 2025, because you’ll be 2 years past your amendable date (again) with the same type of scumbag management and I bet your math won’t look too SOLID at that time. The likelihood of another U.S. ULCC starting up in the next 5 years and undercutting Spirit based on your scope is so far fetched I don’t know how you can even entertain it. And if Norwegian and WOW are allowed to come and operate between US destinations we’re ALL screwed, but it’ll be the legacies that get the tip of the shaft.
Stop putting lipstick on this 2-dimensional pig (you haven’t even gotten 3-dimensions with the TA yet) . If you need the money now or are content the economic package (& PBS), just say it’s a beautiful pig and be content with your decision. Stop giving people the hard sale for your own selfish reasons.
We don’t have to wait five years frontier exists now and threat of codesharing is real. And if it’s not frontier why does it matter if it’s in five years or twenty? You get scope before it blows up in your face. Did we learn nothing from RJs. The legacy pilots saw no threat because that wasn’t the current model. It exploded like a time bomb in their faces and now they have had to try and reel it in since.
As to Norwegian and WoW or volaris or avianca or air Asia etc etc etc, a large chunk of our schedule is international and I would expect the company would at some point like to add many more Intl destinations to include Europe and Asia. The ULCC and LCC model is everywhere already it’s just a matter of if we are going to be the pilots doing the flying or if it’s going to be done as a codeshare with ho wi shiit from air Asia or some low life at Norwegian. I don’t have some hard on for wide bodies but I do want to protect what should be ours when it comes to growth. Europe can be reached with a NEO anyway. And if we ever got widebodies because our scope doesn’t allow codesharing it only grows the ranks protecting you further from furlough and makes everyone that doesn’t want to fly it that much more senior on the narrow body they wish to stay on.
And let’s not forget the threat of whipsaw. Without massive restrictions on codesharing you have constant threat of whipsaw and lose any leverage in future negotiations. Even if they don’t want to do it they can hang it over your head to suppress compensation with thread of codesharing our future flying. We buy that insurance once and now is the time before the disease appears.