Originally Posted by
NKSpilot
A lot of the vague stuff like the Dh seats, is vague because its freebie items that are nice things to have. Not really a reason to vote no IMO.
I cant see complaining abut long call reserve rules when it is something we dont even have right now.
LTD premiums are standard.
As far as retro, nobody ever gets “full” retro. This was explained on one of the conference calls. If you are expecting full retro you will never get what you want.
I think they said full retro at other airlines could mean (examples):
1) 10% retro pay back fully to amendable date - full retro
2) 100% full pay back 6 months - full retro
Dont think we can drag this out another year and get 3-4 years of back pay and have that be your reasoning to justify all the continueing pay loss for a No vote because it will not happen.
If we all had to pull out our wallets every day and hand over a few hundred dollar bills to Bendo I wonder if that would make this lost money seem more real.
I agree with you on most of your points, it’s a lot of money to leave on the table to just hope for a better deal 6 months from now...
Having said that, I just don’t think we should be giving as much as we have for as little as they are giving us in return. The pay rates alone would benefit me greatly as I’m a “fly your schedule and go home” kind of guy. What’s pushing me to a No is when you add up all the small things (sit around airport if they may need you?...) add up when we are getting below standard pay and retirement. I get that the company wants/needs more flexibility and wants to utilize us more efficiently but don’t take all of our protections away and offer me pay and retirement that’s below our peers.
Meet me somewhere in the middle and I’d probably vote yes but the scheduling section is a dumpster fire and that section alone is probably the most important one with regards to QOL. Tighten than up, add some protections, and I’d probably be ok with it.
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