Originally Posted by
Freightcowboy
Ok so let’s vote this contract down.....then what??
You go back and start with the failed TA as a basis and go up from there.
Pound our chest like fools and demand more??
How do you suggest we do that??
No. You vote this down and you either fire or redirect your NC to renegotiate a new TA.
How do you suggest we convince an anti labor NMB that we are worth more and company should just pay us or change this?? How do we do that??
The T/A could be 200% better but how do we convince an anti labor friendly NMB??
Let’s say we vote this down and maybe a year down the road we kick thousands aside for little gain or what if the economy tanks?? I can guarantee you the next offer will be even more sub par.
People need to pull their heads out of their asses and think long term.
The NMB's job is to "close the deal." They couldn't care less if it's fair or not. They want a deal put out for a vote and hopefully closed. That's how they measure success, period, end of story. A deal being voted down brings them back and they want this deal done. Your most recent precedents of what happens after TA gets shot down are Delta and Southwest. I'm at Southwest. We essentially started over with a new NC, and new leadership and had a new and FAR superior TA about 9 months later. You couldn't even compare the two TA's, the first one was indeed THAT bad.
The mediators are allowed to lie and misdirect "in the interest of spurring the negotiations." That's why they use fear, uncertainty and doubt as one of their main tools, but in the end, it all lies with the membership and how you vote. They cannot coerce you into voting yes, but they can and do use your ignorance to their advantage simply to conclude the mediation.
Either this offer is adequate, or it's inadequate in relations to your peers. Either you're discount pilots or you're not. That's how the vote should go.