Originally Posted by
RJSAviator76
You go back and start with the failed TA as a basis and go up from there.
No. You vote this down and you either fire or redirect your NC to renegotiate a new TA.
The NMB's job is to "close the deal." They couldn't care less if it's fair or not. They want a deal put out for a vote and hopefully closed. That's how they measure success, period, end of story. A deal being voted down brings them back and they want this deal done. Your most recent precedents of what happens after TA gets shot down are Delta and Southwest. I'm at Southwest. We essentially started over with a new NC, and new leadership and had a new and FAR superior TA about 9 months later. You couldn't even compare the two TA's, the first one was indeed THAT bad.
The mediators are allowed to lie and misdirect "in the interest of spurring the negotiations." That's why they use fear, uncertainty and doubt as one of their main tools, but in the end, it all lies with the membership and how you vote. They cannot coerce you into voting yes, but they can and do use your ignorance to their advantage simply to conclude the mediation.
Either this offer is adequate, or it's inadequate in relations to your peers. Either you're discount pilots or you're not. That's how the vote should go.
Unfortunately pilot unity at NK lacks big time! I don’t know how it is at SWA. Voting this TA down and pushing it 1-2 years in hopes of getting a marginally better TA, would push back our amendable date back another 5 years plus an additional 2 years in negotiations (8-9 years total from today). All this in hopes of improving compensation $15-20/hr and whatever other small adjustments they’ll do the work rules is not worth it IMO. When you guys voted down your TA1 at SWA, you weren’t at the bottom of the industry in terms of pay, Ltd, scope etc., it’s much easier to be willing to wait for a better deal.