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Old 02-12-2018 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Klsytakesit
as a lurker from Alaska let me sum up this paragraph. In 2009 and again in 2013 our negotiators played that same video. It worked both times. If you look at our contract today with no scope, no work rules, no productivity enhancements, lagging retirement(in 2009 we handed over our pension for nothing in return) and pay rates that lag 20% behind the big four you would see the results of fear based TA selling....It has cost us as a pilot group more than 100 million in lost wages and retirements.....That is the time value of money
I think there is a big difference here. You haven't seen the entire video so you haven't really got the whole picture. We are getting much better scope, so much so that the ALPA attorney said it covered every plausible scenario. We are getting very big raises, on the average of 43%. We are getting a very good LTD and a DC plan that we didn't have before. We are getting rid of a 15 year pay scale and the worst slope I have ever seen with a 12 year scale and much improved slope. We are getting $14 in pay and benefits for every $1 we gave up. We are giving some things, but with these substantial gains I believe it would be foolish to turn this down.
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