[QUOTE=Klsytakesit;2526615]as a lurker from Alaska let me sum up this paragraph. In 2009 and again in 2013 our negotiators played that same video. It worked both times. If you look at our contract today with no scope, no work rules, no productivity enhancements, lagging retirement(in 2009 we handed over our pension for nothing in return) and pay rates that lag 20% behind the big four you would see the results of fear based TA selling....It has cost us as a pilot group more than 100 million in lost wages and retirements.....That is the time value of money[/QUOTE

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