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Old 02-19-2018 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by otter1
The fact that you talked to a friend who's a senior captain here doesn't mean you know a lot about our TA and should tell us how to vote.

In fact you called this a concessionary contract in a previous post. This TA has over $920 million in gains opposed to $64 million in work rule give backs. About a 14 to 1 ratio. Do think ALPA and the NC and the MEC is lying to us? Do you have better numbers than the ALPA financial analyst? So with an average pay increase of 43%, a DC plan that we didn't have before, a much improved LTD plan, better rigs, and better scope, are you still saying it's concessionary?

I understand why some very senior here don't like the TA. The loss of transition conflict means they can't get either 4 or 6 days off in the next month pay-protected, setting themselves up for a junior assign on top of that. Problem is the majority can't get that deal.
I’ve never believed those numbers on any contract by any group. Why not just take $64 million from the pay rates and take out all concessions. The answer is the company will nevee go for it. Each side puts a cost on certain items. If you negotiate right, the other side underestimates the costs. I’m going to say ALPA is under-estimating that $64 million.
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