Jun Vacancy bid shows junior man at LAX 787 at 10,7xx, ORD at 9,7xx, and DFW at 8,3xx. Considering that we receive 6 more 787-900s by EOY 2018 and 2 more 787-900s by EOY 2019, I'd say the junior man number will go even lower as the category expands. I believe the company has mentioned that the DFW fleet may shrink more while the ORD fleet continues to expand. Best bets to hold it quickly would be LAX and ORD...I imagine the junior man at LAX will be around #11,500 to #12,000 once the fleet is complete by EOY 2019. We have 14,800 pilots on property...the retirements listed on APC are pretty close to what's listed on internals but don't take into account the extra 10-15% that leave early. I'd agree 4-5 years is a safe bet.