Originally Posted by minibus

Concessionary in a variety of ways. In my humble opinion you are giving away PBS and scope too cheap. Some scheduling changes as well such as being told to stay at the airport at the end of a duty day..Other little things. In any case, Jblue will probably have a contract fairly soon. They will probably end up with higher pay rates. AA opens section 6 next year and UAL shortly thereafter if memory serves. It's entirely possible You could end up at the bottom of the pile again on pay.

I remember distinctly our 97 contract. APA said they were done, its a good deal and there is nothing more to be had. " Pilots Defending the Profession" sprung up ( pre widespread internet) and lobbied hard for the agreement to be defeated which it was. This led to the embarrassing 20 sec strike. Both parties went back to the table and gains were made on a variety of issues notably length of service for guys furloughed in the early eighties and nineties. This after APA legal advised every member to vote for the first TA...

Granted. ALPA is not APA, arguably the most inept " union" in the history of labor. You have nothing to lose by voting NO. Zero.