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Old 02-22-2018 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DashAviator
There are many pilots at Horizon that managed to survive for 10 years or more on FO pay (yes, it's hard). My annual pay as a FO ranged from a low of $18,000 to a high of $60,000. As a senior FO, my annual pay averaged around $50,000.

The company website claims that Year 1 compensation is around $80,000. I'm not sure where they're getting this number. Before taxes and deductions, here's what you can expect:

Pay: $40,000.
Per Diem: $5000
Bonus: $10,000 to $15,000 (plus maybe another $5000 at the completion of Year 1).

Total: $55,000 to $60,000.
Take-home pay: About $35,000 to $40,000.

I'm not sure what the bonus is at present - I heard that the Q400 payout is now $20,000. It's paid in two installments. After deductions, you'll get about $6700 of the $10,000 bonus. If I recall correctly, taxes on the bonus are withheld at the highest tax rate, so you'll get some money back when you file your taxes next year.

Incidentally, the numbers posted above for take-home pay seem about right. If you get a bonus, put it in the bank for an emergency fund or use it to pay down debt.

Other comments:

(1) Open time is paid at the REGULAR pay rate, unless you pick it up at premium pay (150%).

(2) Requirements to upgrade: 1000 hours Part 121. You may get partial credit for some types of Part 135 time or military time. I heard that the company and the FAA were waiving the 1000 hour requirement on a case-by-case basis, but you still need 750 hours Part 121 (or equivalent).

(3) The upgrade time for someone with no prior 121 experience is around 2 to 2.5 years. Use caution: The Q400 is not an easy aircraft to fly. You do not want to risk an accident, incident, or unsuccessful training event in this airplane.

Dash
One thing to consider. New hires are paid 16 hours per week at the applicable rate which is slightly less then the min monthly guarantee. This occurs until the beginning of the Bid Period following successful completion of OE.

The Q400 bonus is up to $25k depending on experience. The E175 bonus is up to $20k depending on experience.

Regarding the minimums to upgrade. The 1,000 hours SIC is an FAR (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.436). That is not waivable. The 750 hours is a company requirement which the company is relaxing and waiving on a case by case basis for those joining with prior 121 time. We already have Q upgrade awards going to December 2017 hires.
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