Originally Posted by
Bozo the pilot
BD, Im with you on many things, but Ive pmd guys, left a number and had decent exchanges with Hyper/Payne/Southerner et al.
There is nothing to fear from it- Your words and perceptions would have more validity and measure if you had some ex parte communication with those of whom you disagree.
Give it some thought man.
I continue to disagree with them, as Im sure they do with me, but there is respect among us and its good to hear a smidge of optimism from coworkers-even after that abhorrent letter form this $hitbox company
I understand your point, I just don't trust some of these guys with my identity during this contentious time. I honestly feel that I work for The Firm. If you haven't seen it, seek it out. It's a pretty good movie on it's own merits.
Although I feel I have been truthful about how our pay, benefits and working conditions compare to our peers, the company sure wouldn't like those opinions being expressed, and we still have several guys publicly pushing back against negativity. And that's just the ones who post, no idea how many lurkers would gladly give info to The Firm if given the chance.
Payne just threatened to "expose" my private messages yesterday because I was being a "jerk" to him, even though I asked him not to. Those messages essentially say that when we get a respectable CBA I won't continue to discourage guys from choosing JB (makes perfect sense to me), this company has incredible untapped potential (they appear to flat-out refuse to exploit ANY of their potential however) and that I think now that this pilot group is FINALLY fired up, their is a CHANCE we get a CBA in 2018. But that could change fast if this group gets re-lulled into a state of "have patience, it's almost done".
So no, I don't trust a handful of guys here. Besides, we have all had exchanges openly here. If we don't agree with a keyboard, we won't be in agreement over the phone.
With that said, even with a great CBA this place won't be the Dog's Balls for all the other reasons we've talked about such as no retirements, slow growth, no wide body aircraft. But at least we won't also be the lowest paid of our true peers.
In the end, I just want a great CBA and "patience" will NOT get us there, and I think people are finally understanding that, even if they don't want to admit it.
Respectfully.