Originally Posted by
OpenClimb
I agree. Look at the Spirit vote. They’re making a HUGE concession with PBS and are still $30/hr short of industry standard pay AND falling short on the 401k AND giving up some screwball provision that effectively turns even lineholders into airport ready reserves...
AND I bet their TA passes by at least 80/20.
Never underestimate the shortsightedness of a pilot group.
I expect the same general outcome here at Frontier. A sup-par TA followed by heavy rationalization and an ALPA sales job leading to passage of an industry trailing 5 year contract that will once-again be followed by 3 or more years of negotiations leading to another industry-trailing CBA. Rinse and repeat.
For the inevitable “why don’t you just quit?” retort. Believe me: I consider it almost every day I leave work. The truth is that at my age, I’m stuck at F9 if I’m going to continue life as a 121 pilot. The truth is that I frequently consider selling most everything I own so I can abandon this ongoing dumpster fire and make ends meet as a worker bee at Home Depot. It may happen at some point. In more than 30 years worth of jobs, I’ve never been so disgusted with a job and dreaded going to work more than this period of my life.
I agree 100%. As long as indigo owns us NOTHING will change! This will be my last contract at F9 because they will drag their feet for another year and then after 5 years we will begin negotiating the next contract for2-4 years. If you have less then 5 years at Frontier you should leave immediately. If you are in the top 400 you are tied to the anchor of this rusty old ship, and will ride it down to the bottom depths of the sea.
Aviation is all about timing and a seniority number, nows the best time to leave, you will thank me later...