Originally Posted by
flybywire44
Whats up Flyboy8784? I am willing to say that the TA will be approved at ASA as Flyboy8784 stated...
Who knows whats going on with the ATRs or the 900s? The ATR training department has no idea, but we have so many well informed people here? If you really know, you're upper management and under contract not to leak such info.
Carbpilot, pilots fresh out of training generally hold their opinions, as hard as it was for me.
BASTARD STEP CHILD?! Yeah you guys are probably right, but in the end thats just how Skywest Airline employees think of ASA. I doubt Skywest Inc Upper management (you know the decision makers) would be as immature. They're motivated by money, not emotion or partiality. Skywest Management will move to another company/industry when the money is right. Their not as partial to their airline as we are, their careers simply don't rest on the survival and growth of Skywest Airlines like yours does. Why don't you guys vote yes on the Union. Its amazing how many mainline airline pilots ask me when you guys are going to vote it in...
Stay classy Flyboy8784.
"BASTARD STEP CHILD" isn't a term to demean; it just verbal illustration that describes ASA's position under SKW Inc. Looking at it, the term “Bastard” should be removed because you’re not fatherless (DAL), so ASA should just be called the “RED HEADED STEP CHILD.” I also said that ASA is LOVED none the less! Despite what ASA employees seem to think, we at SKW don't think poorly of ASA employees nor do we have any ill-will. The fact is you’re “FAMILY” now, but so many of our pilots/FA’s seem to forget this simple fact. We've seen far more disrespect from ASA FLT Crew than is reciprocated. I'm based in ATL and we've had FA’s literally enter the crew lounge almost in tears (I witness 3 examples myself) from being THROWN off ASA a/c when they stayed behind to help clean up and cross seatbelts. When taxiing most of us refer to ASA as company, "Foxtrot to 26L behind Company." Regardless I understand there are bad apples in every bunch and SKW isn't immune.
We need to stop the bickering and pull together. The first steep is getting ALPA at SKW. If the ALPA drive fails, sure of it (I voted yes), that doesn't mean we have to stay divided. I was a commuter for almost 2 years between PHX and FAT, DEN, SLC, TUS and ATL (for a few months before I moved). I'd say about 80% of all the mainline pilots I came across repeatedly said we didn't need a union after I told them about our policies. Unfortunately it's the grey areas, changing the policies overnight and examples being made out of pilots that tells me we need protection & representation.
BTW, I have two friends at ASA so I've had the opportunity to look over the TA. There are some loop holes that are in SKW favor but overall it's the best TA in the nation. At least for awhile ASA will be the highest paid. Some may say hold out! I don't recommend it, if you guys don't sign this TA you’ll regret it in the end. Also the way it works is ASA tops the industry, then RAH, then XJT, then someone else and it goes on and on. You just can't expect to jump 30% right away on the regional level. After all, most of your pilots are getting around a 15-17% raise (Senior 200 & ATR CA's) with healthy raises across the board. Through all the guaranteed rigs in and you guys are going to make way more money than you realize. I know it won't fail and it shouldn't. SKW gave you 95+% of what you wanted and you deserved it.
IMO + 2 cents.............................FWIW.