Originally Posted by
OpenClimb
I agree. Look at the Spirit vote. They’re making a HUGE concession with PBS and are still $30/hr short of industry standard pay AND falling short on the 401k AND giving up some screwball provision that effectively turns even lineholders into airport ready reserves...
AND I bet their TA passes by at least 80/20.
Never underestimate the shortsightedness of a pilot group.
I expect the same general outcome here at Frontier. A sup-par TA followed by heavy rationalization and an ALPA sales job leading to passage of an industry trailing 5 year contract that will once-again be followed by 3 or more years of negotiations leading to another industry-trailing CBA. Rinse and repeat.
For the inevitable “why don’t you just quit?” retort. Believe me: I consider it almost every day I leave work. The truth is that at my age, I’m stuck at F9 if I’m going to continue life as a 121 pilot. The truth is that I frequently consider selling most everything I own so I can abandon this ongoing dumpster fire and make ends meet as a worker bee at Home Depot. It may happen at some point. In more than 30 years worth of jobs, I’ve never been so disgusted with a job and dreaded going to work more than this period of my life.
Just to clarify, there will be no ready reserve. If scheduling tells you to stay at the airport for reassignment, they have to have something planned for you, it cannot be "we are not sure what is going on, so hang tight for a few hours". Also, the moment they tell you to wait you get 2 hours of credit, on top of anything else scheduled, regardless if you fly.
On a personal note, I think if you are this unhappy to be a pilot at F9 right now I think you would be whining even with legacy rates and I wonder if you have ever worked outside aviation. I have no degree and worked before I started flying at age 30. With the TA I will make $200.000 a year, working half the month, I can't think of any job that equals that. Yes DL rates are $20-$40 higher than ours, and the TA is lacking, but it is a massive improvement over C2010.