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Old 02-27-2018 | 10:53 AM
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DanRoman
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4
Not management...I am an Envoy pilot who actually likes the place. We’re like unicorns on the forums, but we do exist ;D

The problem I have is squaring up projections and seeming “statements of fact” from pilots vs. management. Either one side is right, or the ball comes down somewhere in the middle. I really want to be able to recommend Envoy, but the conflicting information makes that difficult. I’ve enjoyed my time here (not every minute of it, granted), and I want to be able to provide reasonably accurate information to those who ask me about the airline.

A friend who might qualify for the $45k bonus just received a new info sheet from Envoy. It indicates:
- LGA 145 Captain to start
- Ability to base transfer to ORD, MIA, and DFW in 3, 6, and 12 months respectively
- Approx. 5.5 year flow
- Lays our years 1-7 comp with the $45k and years 5-7 at AA

So, is management literally blowing smoke??? Or is this another Charlie Bucket situation where we all think it’s impossible and then it comes true. Hard to tell I guess...only hindsight will tell the story.
I hope it’s another Charlie Bucket situation, but I just can’t see 5.5 for a NH. There is such a lack of consistency in the flow numbers put out by recruiting. Go to their FB page and you can find them replying to people with different flow estimates on just about every post.
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