First off, there is no reason for people to judge how and where you became a pilot. That does not determine how well or poorly you fly. I have flow with a handful of guys who instructed for years, became fo's for 2, now they are captains, and they are not very good pilots. I went to ATP. I am not ashamed to say it. Do I agree with everything they do? Of course not. But, their system works. So some of you are saying that because a pilot becomes an instructor in 90 days, that doesn't make him or her a good pilot. So does that mean students who go through the 10 month program are better pilots, even though they are alotted the same amount of flight time. I would say no. Experience is not only a time frame, but an hours of an aviator are. So lets say a pilot has flown for 10 years and has 2000 hours. Does that make him better than someone who has flown for 5 years and has 2000 hours, no. In aviation, it is about currency. While I was flight instructing, I had some students who came in more frequently than others, and they were the better pilots for the most part. Even though both guys had just around the same total time. Does an instructor know everything after 90 days, no, but neither does the guys who took a year to get his ratings. Most people start instructing with total time just over 250 hours. What makes the guys who took longer better? Nothing. The frequency of your flying experience makes a big difference. When I was in the Navy, I flew with a guy who was a Hornet driver, he told me that if he doesn't fly over a 7 day period, he feels extremely rusty. This is a winged Naval Aviator. Now how do you think a young student pilots feels if he/she doesn't fly for a week. I don't know what makes alot of you judge ATP students and instructors this way, but you have no idea of what you are talking about. Honestly, what makes a good pilot is his/her god given talent. That is the case with all professions. I have been told by almost every captain the I flew with that I was the one of the best if not the best FO's they had ever flown with. They all told me that I would make an excellent captain. I am not saying that to make myself feel better, but I am a product of ATP, that just goes to show that 90 days doesn't mean anything. I don't know if some of you are p@#sed off that you spent alot of time as a student and flight instructor and wish that you could have done it the ATP way or what. I have never judged anyone about where they did there flight training, only on how they can manuever the aircraft and the ability to make sound decisions.