Originally Posted by
Lewbronski
Baradium, bro, are you a native English speaker?
Note the emphasized portions of the above text. None of that sounds to me like it implies a certainty of being released. Maybe it did to you but words and phrases like "can", "hint at", and "might" are not commonly used to suggest a "sure thing". Maybe where you come from that's how people talk. I dunno.
And, just to be clear with you, you may not think there's a right to self-help (strike), but at least one federal judge has said there is a right to self-help under the RLA. I already quoted that case, but I'll put it here again:
In a matter like this, given the choice between your opinion and what the federal judge has written out in a matter of case law, I'll go with the federal judge.
I get it, you like to be condescending.
As far as the judge goes, using the word "right" in the same statement that you say it can be restricted is my point. Never mind the recent history of the NMB and their tendency to not release pilots.
I'm going to point out some parts that I think are germane to this that you didn't emphasize. I removed entire sections for length.
Originally Posted by
Lewbronski
The RLA does not tie your hands anywhere near as much as you think it does. In fact, it hands you a metric ton of leverage if only you and your union knew how to use it.
What is the only real leverage any airline union truly has year in and year out regardless of any other circumstances? The answer is the credible threat to one day in the future pose the threat of legally resorting to self help under the framework of the RLA.
The steps to self help are:
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E. If, after the 90 days, either side does not agree to a settlement, the union is free to resort to self help and the company is free to lock you out.
The President has no power under the law to stop you from striking. He/she can only delay a strike by 60 days.
The point is the RLA does not tie your hands the way people seem to think it does.
A lot of talk about how straightforward and powerful it is to use if only the poor Alaska pilots only knew how! And then examples later on of cases where the system did not work to benefit the pilot groups but touted as successes.
My point is that for whatever "success" a union can achieve with the RLA, they are only through actions that would be carried out much easier without it. The RLA does not benefit the union at all, what it does do is prevent job actions and disruptions as intended.
I already worked at a company where management would say to your face that we were lucky they were offering anything and we were just hurting ourselves by not agreeing to it since we weren't going to get released anyway. I guess that just means our union was made up of fools though.
If you would like to have a conversation as an adult I am willing to continue, but if you insist on continuing with insults then you can simply have the last word and I'm done.