Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

Does pay the same. That and you really don't "not fly" unless you want to. I've been to the sims unintentionally for landings 2-3 times in about 7 years. A couple of times I went non current so I could play the game of getting trips dropped with pay while I wait for my bounces.

BTW, though it's not my style, the guys that are playing the game with landing currency average about an extra month's pay a year. Or at least a month's worth of flying bought while waiting for class.

Here's a post from the 2017 earnings thread. Now before I get flamed for posting such things I am a firm believer in giving people in this profession data points so they can make informed decisions as to where they might want to try to hang their hat. Looking at numbers on APC doesn't show what the job is like at the various airlines. You need numbers and anecdotes from different positions on a seniority list to help make an informed choice.

I'm not senior, nor junior. No scams, games, etc, but this is what you can do as a joe blow line holder on WB FO positions:



1) Airline employer: UAL, about ~60-65% overall company seniority

2) Seat: FO, about ~70% in my BES

3) Equipment: 777

4) Years of Service with company: 12 yr

5) How many days you worked: 116*

6) How many overnights you had: I had two day trips, the rest had overnights. Most were 4day trips with a few 2day domestic trips, a couple 3day international and one 7day extravaganza which I traded to on purpose.

7) How many hours you blocked: 802

8) How many hours did you credit: 1235

9) Expected gross income: ~$279,500

10) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.):

10a) DC: ~$43,000
10b) PS: ~$30,500
10c) Etc: ~$6,600 for PerDiem and ~$1,500 or so for what I assume
to be on time perf and what not.

Total, more or less: ~$360k


*The details:
- I live local to my base.

- I bid reserve for the Dec bid period that is included in the 2017 pay to get Xmas off and didn't work a single day that month.

- Some of my trips have very late shows and early finishes (9pm starts and 5am finishes). Those can be considered days off to some, myself included. Including those days as days on increases my days worked by about 13 days. That being said, if those are considered days worked, then anyone who commutes in a day before or home the day after a trip should include those commuting days as work.

- Most of my flying is long haul international. We are on break for about 40-45% of the total block of the trip. Watching movies or sleeping.