Exactly. It’s pretty ridiculous the number of guys, at my last job, who would get the Hogan and then told to get lost. One got to retake it 1.5 years later (and passed), the others are all at Delta and one is FedEx. So they weren’t good enough for United, but obviously more than capable to fly at your competitors? So so stupid, especially since United was a lot of these guys dream job.

What is the unions take on the Hogan? It sounded like they are not a fan of this at all. They aren’t stupid and they have to know that for every applicant United rejects, with the Hogan, practically all end up at your legacy counterparts/competition.

If they want to use the Hogan, so be it, but I feel United is really doing a disservice by not at least interviewing these guys face-to-face. There are tons of great people who would be terrific that they are missing out on.