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Old 03-31-2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mr2die4
Wow, where the $^*# have I been. I should have posted on this thread a long time ago. I went to RAA, I got the Type, I got the job with 550-100. And I never had a single dificult test/exam/checkride after the training I got at Regional. Shortcut? Hell yeah it was. And it cost me too. But to each his own, thats the kind of pilot I opted to become. You can't make sweeping judgements of a pilot group because of the training they had, everyone is different. Punkpilot48 went to regional, in fact he is probably my best friend in the world right now, but he didn't do the type. He went thattaway, I went thissaway. Why does that make him a better, more respectable pilot? (no offense bro) These threads are difficult bc you have students, instructors, FOs, Captains, ERJ pilots, 777 pilots all arguing about one thing, and nobody has the same point of view, or the same opinion. There will never be a common ground, and thats all there is to it. From now till the invention of teleporters, pilots will be shunning those who had different training from themselves. Its really too bad seeing as how this really is a small industry, and we all hate each other. This de727ups guy really has it out for anyone who paid to shorten their training time. I made and investment in myself. I figure that the type rating got me an interview a year sooner. If that means I can earn pay as a captain later in life for an extra year, then how much does that get me? If I make 100K a year for an extra year, and paid 20K for a type, then I guess I'm 80K ahead. The type is not for everyone, but if you can swing it, you can get yourself a job much faster. I hope everyone has fun tearing my post up calling me a new hire POS, drinking the kool aid and all that crap. Quit b!tching about everything ad just do your f!ing job. In a world with "hundreds of pilots trying to get a job" how are you supposed to stick out and get hired? In my class at ExpressJet there were 16 new hires. 14 of us were grads of these "sh!tty PFT schools" and guess what *********s, we all passed. How about those two guys that were CFIs for three years? The f-ing failed! They cost the company thousands of extra dollars bc of the contract that guaranteed them extra training if they failed a checkride. The checkairmen were relieved when they asked if we had been through a "regional primer course" at a big flight school. It doesnt take long in this industry to realize that you are fed a load of bu!!****. Weed through it and find the training that suits you best. Regional tells you a lot of lies, but they still have good training, just dont expect to stick with the timeline.
For those of you who think that their current program is too short, get this. They recently recieved a 142 school rating allowing them to train a pilot from zero to commercial multi instrument with less than 100 hours in an aircraft, in about three months, then back to the good ol' 141 program for the CFI, andother three months, and then three months for the airline transition course. Yep, get used to it, 9 month FOs!!!

Oh, based on personal experience, when I was sitting in the left seat of that CRJ sim, with three FAA examiners (my FO/instructor, my examiner, and his examiner) I felt pretty damn good when they told me I just passed a Captain ride with 380 hours. They also laughed with me about the fact that it could be years before I could use my type rating as a captain.
Problems with PFTers:

1) Lack of flying experience. A chimpanzee can be trained to do flows in an RJ cockpit, but he can't operate in the real aviation environment.
2) They are often pumped so full of BS propaganda from their training program that they show up on line thinking they are actually the hand-picked chosen few...yes this does happen.
3) They degrade the industry because they pay to get a job instead of getting paid (yes CFIs get paid).
4) Young ones with lots of money (and you know where it came from) often have either an intolerable attitude, or low forcefulness and self-confidence. Neither of these are recommended personalities for aviation safety.
5) Professional pilots need to have a higher level of responsibility and maturity then the population as a whole...the historical career tracks to the profession ensured that (military, CFI, freight). PFT does not.
6) Also, impulse control seems to be lacking in many cases...PFTers often post long, ranting, expletive-filled diatribes.
7) Pilots should not pay for aircraft-specific training, period. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
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