Originally Posted by
flyingkangaroo
Hey people, I have to agree with jetjock, this contract is very good, it's not the best but it seriously helps boost our W2's. We need really consider what this contract will do for us. The duty rigs will be extremely beneficial, we also have a very good scheduling system and profit sharing. The contract is only three years long, if we don't vote it in it will take a substantially longer time to find agree to another contract. The more time we wait the more our purchasing power is degraded. The Top 700 guys only get a small raise but that raise plus the rigs brings them to the top on the regional industry. We need to get this one voted in, If we do we have a much better chance of getting new contracts and more flying. More flying equates to lower upgrade times and i heard CA's get paid more then FO's.
Where to begin...
You say it's not the best and I agree. You say it will boost our w2's and that is only true if you fly the ATR or 200. The scheduling still allows rescheduling outside your footprint (extending) and junior manning (flying on your days off) among other problems. You say it will take a substantially longer time to negotiate another contract if we vote no. This is absolutely a false misconception that many of you have. It could take literally a few hours to go back to the table and correct the problems. We do not have to start over again, i.e. NOT another 5 years.
You say the rigs bring the 700 guys to the top of the industry. In my above example I show a pay cut. Horizon is the top of the industry, BTW. My counterpart there makes $14/ hour more than me. (18% more)
Then you play into their hands about getting new flying and growth. This is exactly what management wants you to do. It just doesn't work this way. ASA has had some of the lowest 50 seat rates and only until recently did upgrades start happening quickly because Delta (among others) started hiring again. 2 years ago, F/0's were stuck in the right seat 4 or 5 years. Also look at how ASA lost LAX to XJT who has much higher rates of pay.
WE ARE IN CONTROL due to massive pilot shortages, which will only get worse as the legacies continue to hire. DO NOT SELL OUT!