Just a remark from an outsider (NK). There were a few loudmouth APCers who were threatening people who picked up open time, published screenshots including peoples names, made phone calls on recorded lines saying there was a concerted effort not to pickup open time. It took the company 30 minutes to convince a judge to sign a TRO holding the MEC personally liable if this didn't stop. ALPA didn't even show up to defend SPAMEC. Also SPAMEC had been sending several emails telling people it was crucial we keep the operation going and keep picking up open time. From what I heard it might have cost us in negotiations. I did not pick up any open time in May and June last year because I was busy and that is fine, just make sure you don't tell other people what to do with their time off....