My earlier post was to show AS pilots are doing ok and point out the hypocrisy of the pilots angrily posting here. To be honest I was shocked by people being upset about my measly 329k... I was no where near the high water mark at AS. I did not work that hard and had a great quality of life.

I do think it is important to talk a little about economics because most everyone here seems a miss at how it works. You need a healthy economy, healthy company, in damand field to get a great income.
Can you imagine what a UA whale CA would have said in 2000 if you told him in a few short years he would be making 40$ an hour less then a SWA CA with no pension. He would have laughed you out of his soon to be foreclosed on House. He would have told you the mighty UA pilot group would shutdown the industry if that happened. In 2004 we had a real good economy but UA was a terribly run business and it’s pilots were making crap. In 2004 SWA was a well run business in a good economy and they were killing it. Our wages have nothing to do with what each individual flies each month or how many times you march around the flag pole at SeaTac with a sign (I was there I did that). You need a healthy economy, healthy company, and demand. We have had a healthy economy, consolidation finally gave us healthy companies, and after ALPA’s attempt to stall demand it is finally here. Yes, we need a union but it is not bringing you your big raise, it is the other three. You get very little in life with vinegar and even less trying to destroy the profitable company you work for. In 2020 you will get the industry, scope, and a descent day guarantee. However, you will only get this if your company is successful.

And yes SWA was working under an expired contract for years, they were most certainly in negotiations and almost every pilot over there was working 105-180 trips a month. You really want to work there? Sounds like a company full of scabs to me . Most of my closest friends are at SWA and they are really awesome guys!

Oh and I have yet to vote yes on a contract!