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Old 03-13-2018, 07:11 PM
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SEMIslave
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
Is that FAR 117 Legal??

That seems to me to violate the spirit of the regulation.

If there hasn't already been an interpretation saying that's legal I'll be the first to request it. I'd be shocked if that would hold up.
Yes it would be totally legal. To be clear it’s not going to affect FDP times, but only the maximum flight time (block) per day. The FAA defines flight time as beginning when the aircraft first moves under its own power. So time on the pushback doesn’t actually count, and the regs are pretty clear about it. It’s also all in the 117 guide ALPA has.

All that being said I personally don’t like it. Means that all that time at the gate will no longer count as flight time. Also will make it much harder for us to track to make sure we are legal given the current ACARS software.
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