Originally Posted by cactusmike

I have to laugh at the infighting between you guys. A year ago Atlas was the whipping boy. The year before it was Southern. Before that Kalitta.

If you believe you are going to get solidarity between competing airlines for the same contracts you are mistaken. If you think you are going to get the same money as Fedex, UPS or any of the big 4 pax carriers you are even more mistaken. It takes a company making billions in profits for any of that to trickle down to the pilots.

I follow these threads because I started out in the freight world and I had connections to some of these carriers. I had friends at Emery, DHL, Transcon, Kalitta, ATI and I actually interviewed at ABX back in 1984. After seeing how the ACMI world eats its young I came to the conclusion that although there will always be a need for these carriers, they will always be chasing the same contracts and fighting each other for the same scraps.

Calling other pilot groups sellout and scabs is just wrong. Each group makes the decisions that are best for their pilot group. Each negotiating committee spends hundreds of hours trying to nail every dime they can out of the company. Teamsters or ALPA, the background support from the National Union obtains the best information possible for the companies financials and the ability of the company to pay the contract.

So ATI did not live up to your expectations. Too bad, because it did for 70% of the ATI Pilots. Come down off your high horse. Every pilot group that has been polluting these threads with crap has been on the bottom of the pile. None of you are exactly leading the way here. Be glad for the gains that have been made and be glad that at least the ATI guys and the Omni pilots will be making better money than they were a year ago.