If the people I'm talking to are any indication, we are beating a dead horse here anyway. When the ASA TA came out I thought there might be a chance but I would say less than 10 of the 50+ people I have talked to were/are voting yes. I know that some domiciles like SLC/DEN may have more, but I don't think ALPA will get to 40%. Also there is no way SKW mgmt merges a non-union pilot group with a union group.