Originally Posted by Denny Crane

First of all, I have NOT made a fallacious argument. I have simply asked you a question you refuse to answer and then accuse me of attacking you. Please point out my fallacious argument. As far as ad hominem attacks, point one out to me and I'll do the same for you. You are the one that has been in attack mode the whole discussion. All I've been doing is defending myself (and others).

Your argument is that we (senior pilots) sold scope to benefit ourselves. I, and others, am trying to refute that argument with facts you refuse acknowledge, ie bankruptcy being a major factor. Unless you have been thru process personally, I don't think you can comprehend the scope of how screwed you (the pilot group) are.... You also need to realize that with every contract following the BK one, we have reduced small jet outsourcing. Currently RJ flying is dying a slow death. It's my feeling, in the next contract, we should be focusing on large jet scope that we have allowed to be eroded while tightening small jet scope.

My point is you refuse to acknowledge the position that bankruptcy puts a pilot group in. Hence my question. Yes, we voted it in..........with a proverbial gun to our head. The alternative being our Contract thrown out by the Court and the Company do it any way. If you cannot wrap your mind around that and acknowledge it, this discussion is over.

Dennt