Davetastic

What is your comparison to say that Atlas has the "worst in the industry"? Where did you accomplish your training and how many airlines have you received a type from to draw such a conclusion? I think prospective candidates here would like to hear concrete evidence instead of a fleeting comment without any support to back up the claim.

I'm not goading you....I am curious too because my experience now that I have received two types from Atlas is that despite having taken a step back so to speak having come from an AQP airline is that I thought I was well prepared to take the types. Perhaps it is a mindset in ones approach to training that lays the foundation for success. Instead of showing up and expecting to be spoon fed, which at Atlas will definetly not happen, one would think that when a career is on the line expecting ANY training department to carry you is precarious at best. My experience at Atlas was that every instructor all the way up to S.A. was there to see you succeed provided you put in the time and effort.

I think that career preparation in any field is about attitude, aptitude and preparedness. Perhaps this is another area especially during contentious contract negotiations while the company is under the microscope, where it is easier to assign blame to others than to own it. I don't think that Atlas training has anything to do with those getting pinked or leaving. People are leaving because they are chasing the money. People are getting pinked at a normal rate as any other airline because they are not coming prepared mentally, or they had a bad day. Of all the posts here claiming that Atlas has the "highest failure rates", there has been zero statistical data to quantify those statements. Sure there is a learning curve coming from a King Air to a B767 but there are plenty of those guys getting through no problem. Besides, the Feds signed off on Atlas training and the company can't do a thing to our training standards without the union crying foul(as it should be) so if there is blame to be assigned at this point for the perceived "poor training" at Atlas, I think it is a two way street and the only drivers are the union and the company. As I understand it, there are a couple of reasons why Atlas doesn't have AQP; The POI is a hold out, and the other is that union and company can't agree on it's implementation rules.

Readers understand your opinion, that is easy to grasp...you hate Atlas but you are still enjoying the benefits of being employed by your loathed carrier, but what readers here don't understand is, what is your expectation of training at Atlas? How are you "on your own" and how does that differ from any other training department? Don't you roll the dice EVERYTIME you put yourself in front of a fed whether that be for a PPL or a type regardless of where your training was accomplished? The two events are mutually exclusive. The standards set forth to pass a type or any checking event don't change if you were to complete your training at ABC vs XYZ carrier. If you completed your training at a 121 carrier, it means that their training department has met the standards with which to present to the standards a candidate for a checkride. I think the company and the training department are separate yet related entities. While I disagree with the direction of negotiations and the companies approach to the negotiations to date, I think the training department is not a reflection of the companies demeanor toward the pilot group as it relates to negotiations.