Bar,

Were you in the room when the MEC discussed/said this? I'm referring to:

"The thought was, if the pilots turned it down the voice of the pilots would be more persuasive than just the 19 member MEC."

As I said, I'm a line pilot. Always have been, always will be. From a line pilots perspective, the MEC let them down. It should never have been approved and put to a vote. I don't care about the nuances or what was being said by whom (RA or the MEC in this case). I care about the bottom line. It's the MEC's job to make hard decisions like this, not to punt. If they didn't think it would pass, they should have voted it down period.

The fact that they didn't, tells me they passed the buck. End of story.

I get the impression you think we should thank United for their deal. The root cause of a better deal for us (TA-2) and a better deal for a lot of the industry, was because we voted down that POS. Not because of United. As you said United used our rejected deal as a springboard for theirs. If we wouldn't have rejected........would they have done as well as they did? I don't think so.

Denny