Originally Posted by
BKbigfish
They still got you guys on the pay roll huh? 12-15 year upgrade at the legacies? Try 2–5. Meanwhile our upgrade times will continue to creep up and our lack of profit sharing, subpar FO rates and embarrassing training pay will continue to motivate anybody with less than five years on property to bail for the legacies/SWA/FedEx as soon as they get the call.
[sarcasm]Thanks for your thoughtful response and answering my questions...[/sarcasm]
I gather that you'd like to have seen higer training pay and higher first year FO pay along with profit sharing in this contract. And, because those things weren't included you expect people to jump ship just as they get close to being able to upgrade.
My upgrade statement was based on current status. At legacies, 12-15 year upgrades are currently the norm, but those times will come down in the next few years. I'd still love to see your calculations that put legacy upgrades at 2-5 years (excluding the RJs being flown by mainline carriers, like the E-Jets and soon to be C-Series). If you were on property at AA today, you'd move about 1/3rd of the way up the list in the next 6 years based on mandatory retirements. The most junior (least desireable) bases would be in reach for NB CA upgrade at that point, but the most senior bases require being more than 50% of the way up the list to hold NB CA.