And to add to the last point, this happened while Barry was enriching himself with a compensation package very comparable to Gary Kelly over at Swa. But how dare we pilots ask to be compensated 15-20% below what Swa guys and gals get paid. Frontierpilotfacts.com. Stay away. If you do come here now, I wouldn’t want to be know as a pilot who got hired here during this era. Just saying, it’s that bad!