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Old 04-25-2018 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
If the GREATER is the way the agreement states, it would put them in violation by not sending more than AA would be hiring. We both agree that is foolish. Yet the pilots legitimately could go to grievance claiming a violation and be awarded damages. That adds more to the rationale that interpretation is incorrect.

No, your second point does not make good sense. You are implying a cause and effect relationship that is not necessarily there. At the current rate, there is a 8 year flow (assuming no attrition). Once the Protected Pilots finish flowing, it slows to a 14 year flow (again assuming no attrition).

Yet in the next few years it is estimated the overall hiring from the regionals will grow to one fifth of the total pilots a year, the equivalent of a 5 year flow. To stay competitive and have usefulness for recruiting, they need to have something in that range. Pilots would laugh at a 14 year flow.

This would cause Envoy and AA to want to renegotiate the rate for the future. This is a driver in their self interest to want to negotiate with the union.
You sure are putting a spin on the flow. Bottom line is the company will ALWAYS do the minimum or LESS. As evidenced in the start of the thread, a two month hiatus in the flow is a setback Envoy pilots won't ever get back. Company may promise to catch up but highly unlikely.

You must be new to Envoy. I would have my apps out everywhere and trying everything possible to get out. Flow is a gimmick beyond anyone inside of a year out.
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