Originally Posted by pitchattitude

I may get jumped on for starting a new thread for this. I know this has been brought up in several of the other threads. I’m not a doom and gloom basher, but certainly not happy about how things have worked out at Envoy. I was looking at info for other airlines on the APC pages and there was an Envoy ad that popped out at me. SIX years to flow it says.

I clicked on the link Envoy Air Direct Entry Captains and the pay chart it shows actually says year FIVE is a blended Envoy/AA rate! They are effectively saying if you get hired now you will be at AA in five and a half years! While I wish this were true, there is NO way. The company needs to show the math. The union needs to do something about this. If Envoy wants to sell this BS, they need to tell the rest of us that are here how they are going to make this happen.

It is also advertising 950 hours as DEC. I know they are counting the 50 hours if IOE, but we all know you are not eligible to bid for or enter training without 1000 hours if qualifying time.